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Re: Christian Notte

Postby sherr on September 9th, 2010, 8:04 pm

Please Ms Sands if you plan to post make it a spoiler alert....I hate not knowing....but of course when I saw what was coming I continued to read.....I think Sue is a nice name (don't thank me Susan you would do the same for me....I hope) ;)
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Re: Christian Notte

Postby wren on September 9th, 2010, 9:36 pm

Awwww...Lynsay needs to reread A Bite To Remember...it's only one of the best and absolutely the most pivotal book in the series!! Yes, ABTR sets the stage for all the books to come. 8-)

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Re: Christian Notte

Postby susan60625 on September 9th, 2010, 11:54 pm

Well, Lynsay, we really appreciate the hardships you have to go through for your art and our enjoyment! *giggle* Oh, and I'll understand if Christian's life mate isn't named Sue. Just so long as she's tall (like me), is a classically trained singer (like me), has a charming and witty personality (like me!) and is originally from Chicago, but is willing to relocate and be turned (like me!). After all, we know that Jackie (Vincent's life mate) is actually Wren in disguise and Leigh is actually Sin in disguise, amongst others. I'll join the crowd of undercover life mates quite willingly!

I am SOOOOO a happy camper! Yippee! :D :D :D :D
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Re: Christian Notte

Postby grlnxtdr29 on September 13th, 2010, 5:02 pm

Ok, I Had a question about the Name Notte. Julius had a bunch of sisters, but no brothers, yet everyone in the family still has the name Notte. Is this because that is the name they are using this century, or all the Cousins that have been mentioned from another side of the family?
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Re: Christian Notte

Postby wren on September 14th, 2010, 2:40 am

grlnxtdr29 wrote:Ok, I Had a question about the Name Notte. Julius had a bunch of sisters, but no brothers, yet everyone in the family still has the name Notte. Is this because that is the name they are using this century, or all the Cousins that have been mentioned from another side of the family?



1. Nicodemus & Marzzia Notte - original Immortals from Atlantis, they knew the Argeneau family, including Lucian's & Jean Claude's wives who perished in the fall of Atlantis. Like Ramses & Alexandria, they escaped during the fall and had a large family, although they had all daughters and one son, Julius, while the Argeneau family had all sons and one living daughter, Martine, by the Notte account in Vampire, Interrupted. Part of the European council, they still reside in Italy. Julius now oversees the International construction companies and other investments that Nicodemus built.

2. Julius Notte - only son of Nicodemus & Marzzia Notte, he has six sisters, but we only know the names of three, Vita, Rosa, and Camilla (aka Mila), Julius & Marguerite's story was told in Vampire, Interrupted.

3. Christian Notte - son of Julius Notte & Marguerite Argeneau-Notte, grandson of Nicodemus & Marzzia, he first appeared in A Bite To Remember and then in Vampire, Interrupted when he was searching for the identity of his mother. Lynsay is currently writing his book. :D

4. Marcus Notte - cousin through unknown connection, he grew up from the cradle with Julius, and first appeared with Christian in A Bite To Remember, and then again in Vampire, Interrupted. He is fair-haired & quietly intriguing, and is expected to have a have a book of his own.

5. Dante & Tommaso Notte - twin sons of Camilla (Mila) & Reginald, grandsons of Nicodemus & Marzzia Notte through their daughter, Mila. Where you see one, you usually see the other. We don't know if they ever use an alternate surname from their father such as the Argeneau/Pimms family do, or if Reginald adopted the Notte surname as his own. Mila was the sister Julius was escorting to court when Vita implemented the 3-on-1 on Marguerite and tried to have Christian killed at birth. I'll try to follow up on Reginald, but I don't have my copy of VI handy. The Notte twins first appeared as enforcers working for Christian in A Bite To Remember, then appeared in Vampire, Interrupted, and made a brief appearance with Eshe in The Immortal Hunter. They are still young and eat a lot, but have a big following and readers hope for a book for them.

Note: from HFY excerpt - Interestingly, Martine's older son Cale goes by the surname Valens, so it's probable that Darius & Raphael also use Darius Sr., their birth father's, surname. Since they were born B.C. when there were less records, they may not need to alternate with the Argeneau name.

6. Stephano & Neil Notte - sons of Roberto & Elaine Notte, adopted into Nicodemus & Marzzia's family through Rosa Notte, their deceased daughter. Rosa was the first life mate & sire of Roberto Conti. Roberto chose to take the Notte surname when he was turned, and stayed with the family after Rosa's death, of which we have no information on the family tree. Stephano was born to Elaine & her mortal husband. She was a widow, and Roberto turned her because she was his second life mate. Stephano chose to remain mortal and not to allow his mother to turn him. Neil was born to Roberto & Elaine. Neil & Stephano both work for Vincent Argeneau's companies in California. Stephano was turned by Vincent in ABTR to save his life after the saboteur's attack on him. Though not biological grandchildren, they are considered part of Nicodemus & Marzzia Notte's family line through Rosa. Most of what we know about this part of the Notte family comes from the events in A Bite To Remember. We weren't told if Neil is mated. Stephano may eventually have his own book, if he quits whining about being turned, and perhaps we will find out more about Neil, too.

7. Vita Notte - born in Atlantis the same year as Lucian & Jean Claude Argeneau, she was the eldest daughter of Nicodemus & Marzzia Notte. She was extremely jealous when her only brother, Julius, was born, mostly because he would inherit and oversee the Notte companies and business investments. She tried to kill him as a baby & later his tried to kill his son Christian, and caused much havoc & heartache in their lives through hurting Marguerite. She also caused havoc in Jean Claude's and Morgan's lives by manipulating them into doing what she wanted, which contributed to their final decline and rogue behavior. She did not seem capable of truly loving anyone, yet she was very intelligent and had a network of Immortals working for her. Though Nicodemus had suspected her & watched his daughter closely over the centuries, he never had proof of her misdeeds to do anything to stop her. She was turned into the European council when her evil deeds caught up with her & were finally revealed through her confession to Marguerite & Christian, which was overheard by other family members. Vita's story was told in Vampire, Interrupted, in which she was the main villain.

I think I have most of it correct. Did I miss anyone that you were thinking of in paticular, gnd? :)

ETA: I don't know about the cousins in Christian's band. Lynsay's post giving us their names is the first I've heard of them, but we do know Julius does have other sisters that we haven't met...and we don't know yet if Nicodemus has siblings or cousins who have children & grandchildren, either. There could be a lot of Nottes out there, just like there are a lot of Argeneaus, and it now seems probable that there are a lot of d'Aurieus family members. Also, was Rosamund a "Bricker" before she married Armand...even if she wasn't, we know Bricker has sisters? The plots...and the family trees...thicken... :o :shock: ;) :lol: :D
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Re: Christian Notte

Postby grlnxtdr29 on September 14th, 2010, 11:07 am

LOL, Thanks Wren, I think you Mostly answered my Question, I was just confused about all the Cousins having the same last name if they we're the children of Julius's sisters, who would normally have taken their Husbamd's name. As for Marcus, I pretty much assumed he was the child of one of Nicodemus' Brothers. As you pointed out, we don't know if there were any other siblings of the Oldest Atlantiens that we've met, but there may well be...
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Re: Christian Notte

Postby Lynsay on September 14th, 2010, 11:40 am

Gees, Wren, hon, I'm gonna start checking with you when I need info, lol. Seriously, you know more than I can remember.

As for the Notte name, most clan members keep the immortal clan name in some version or other, either switching off with the married name or altering it slightly. For instance, Mila married an English baron, but he took on the name Notte, though they switch out with his English name when they have to do the move and name change thing, but the children are considered Nottes, and other immortals still know them as Nottes whether using Notte or the father's name. It identifies their source.

With Cale, because his father was an immortal, Cale and his brothers switch between Valens and Argeneau rather than Pimms, their step-father's name. They are members of both clans Valens and Argeneau.

When I mention some version of it, I mean the name may have been altered centuries ago to suit the country where that branch settled. Alexandrina from The Reluctant Vampire is Alexandrina Argenis, the Spanish version of the root word for Argeneau.

Marguerite is now Marguerite Argeneau-Notte. Well this decade anyway.

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Re: Christian Notte

Postby sin on September 14th, 2010, 2:53 pm

Sheesh see what happens when I fall asleep.. Wren my dear we must talk and see that we have all the same info and make the new entries on our spreadsheet. :)
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Re: Christian Notte

Postby susan60625 on September 14th, 2010, 4:04 pm

Hey, Sin! What kind of spreadsheet have the two of you cooked up? I have one, that's basically a family tree. I'd like to see what you two came up with and see how it compares to mine. Would you be able to email it to me? Thanks!
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Re: Christian Notte

Postby sin on September 14th, 2010, 4:07 pm

susan60625 wrote:Hey, Sin! What kind of spreadsheet have the two of you cooked up? I have one, that's basically a family tree. I'd like to see what you two came up with and see how it compares to mine. Would you be able to email it to me? Thanks!


That I can sis Sue. I did it back on the old forum. It has the time lines, immortals & their mates, children, etc. Along with the book covers. Old &new (3) Give me a bit to update it with the last 2 and get the cover for HFY on it and it will be there. :)
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