Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby MysticFan on February 22nd, 2011, 6:25 pm

First, I have to say that when I see that Wren or Tom has a new post I always know that it is going to be interesting and entertaining. I love that you both have that wordiness quality and only wish I were blessed with the gift of gab, or on the forum wordiness. I really try to get my opinions out there in the best way I know how, but usually find that the words will hide from me and I tend to sometimes have a bit of a struggle trying to make sure everything is in place and makes sense.
Secondly, I want to say thank you to Wren for sharing the ’Slug’ story, I love it and now look at my dear hubby as if I was lucky enough to find a 'Top 'o the Heap-er’, even though at times he may slide to mid way…lol Also, thank you Tom for sharing your family history & story. I do have to say that it is great that you are embracing your inner ‘Slug’, but I have to agree with Wren and say that you are most definitely a' Top 'o the Heap-er’ (sorry Wren if I have slaughtered this phrase…lol). I do enjoy having a male point of view on things now, it adds a little diversity to the pot and not to mention helps me understand things a bit better when dealing with the men of my life.


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Women were evil temptresses that needed to be suppressed and kept in their place lest they lure pure-hearted young men astray. This was the mentality that informed many a witch burning.


I actually just saw something on this subject the other night and thought it was total madness the way they determined if one was a witch. I will not go into it, but I myself found it ridiculous.
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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby ElectricFedora on February 22nd, 2011, 6:59 pm

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ElectricFedora wrote:I'm know i do, Sometimes I just feel like a 27 year old stuck in a 15 year olds body.


Sign. I wish, Kaela, I could convince you to embrace your age just a bit. You actually will be 27 years old before you even know it and then you'll be wondering why you were in such a hurry. I myself am a 25-year-old trapped in a 47-year-old body. I look in the mirror and wonder: "Who is that old guy? It can't be me."


Mhm, I agree with you. I know and feel so much older then I am and sometimes hearing other kids talk about certain things always makes me feel bummed out because I just can't relate to them. Although I do know being my age has many advantages, such as not having to worry about a lot of things I know I'm not ready to handle like working a 9-5 job, paying bills, etc. Even something so close as Driving scares the daylights out of me as much as I wish I knew how to do it.

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ElectricFedora wrote:I'm know i do, Sometimes I just feel like a 27 year old stuck in a 15 year olds body.


Hon, you've always felt older than your years, but don't let that rush you into missing out on life where you are now. Neither Thomas nor sin nor I are disregarding your feelings. We just want you to have time to have some good life experiences along the way to finding that one special guy...and then decide if he is worth it! Image


I hope so to, I've always felt older then my real age as you said and people always tell me I'm very mature for my age as well as think I'm older then I am. One time I was sitting with a school official who runs the Special Education program. ( Side Note: I have some issues with my hands from when I was younger which made my writing ability horribly impaired.) So when I was speaking to her she saw my point on how I was talking to her about why I needed class notes and when setting it up she left and then came back out saying she couldn't find my file. She told me she looked in every section for Seniors and couldn't find it. I explained to her I wasn't a senior and she said I must be a Junior then, when I told her I was a sophomore she was utterly shocked. Another case of not so nice was I went to Dinner with my parents last summer and a waiter brought me a glass of wine along with ones for my parent's I've also been able to get into a Casino without getting ID checked. It's a great thing though it lets me things in a way I never could and other kids can't other times it put's me in a bad spot because I don't enjoy other kids interrupting my learning in school because their to immature. That and I get very upset/angry/sad depending on the event when people talk down to me because of my age.

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Congratulations Wren! One thing I can say is I very much hope to one day find a frog Prince of my own, one who I can have a great relationship with like you have with your husband and like what my parents have. They've been married 21 years soon to be 22 years in December. Speaking of how old are Thing 1 and Thing 2? I've always pictured them as kids around 7-11 but from what I've seen on the site when you talk about their school it almost sounds like their closer to my own age of 15.
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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby orionsfaith on February 23rd, 2011, 1:41 am

great theory/idea, and would make for an amazing book
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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby jill on February 23rd, 2011, 6:27 am

Congrats to both Wren and Tom on long lasting relationships :D I think its awesome when I hear things like that. My own parents have been together 32 years and going on 33 in May. And to be honest that is what I am looking for.

And I don't want anyone to think I am bitter and hate men. I hope my earlier posts didn't suggest that. I know there are good men out there and bad women out there. I am just tired of the slow decline of good men in my past lol...but hey I am sure everyone is right and eventually one will find me...till then held high and avoid large obstacles :mrgreen:
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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby sin on February 23rd, 2011, 12:47 pm

jill wrote:And I don't want anyone to think I am bitter and hate men. I hope my earlier posts didn't suggest that. I know there are good men out there and bad women out there. I am just tired of the slow decline of good men in my past lol...but hey I am sure everyone is right and eventually one will find me...till then held high and avoid large obstacles :mrgreen:



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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby TomEC on February 24th, 2011, 6:14 pm

orionsfaith wrote:great theory/idea, and would make for an amazing book


Wow! Looks like someone is actually commenting on the real original purpose of this thread. Have we ever strayed a long way from that. :?

Anywhoo…

I've just had a curious thought about the older immortals. It seems to me when you live for as long as they do the past looms large. Which makes sense because is so much more of it. Lynsay seems to understand this as so many of her stories seem to involve events of the past coming back to haunt everyone.

There are so many interesting past periods that could be drawn on for stories like those. My own piece of family history that I shared on this thread reminded me of one of those. (Oh, by the way, thanks everyone for your encouraging comments about that. I really appreciate it :D ) How do you suppose the immortals in Europe managed to weather the dark days of the 1930s and early 40s. How did the Nottes fair in Mussolini's Italy. I think a rich vein of historical baggage could be mined from that era. I'm just sayin’.Image
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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby TomEC on February 24th, 2011, 7:21 pm

MysticFan wrote:
TomEC wrote: Women were evil temptresses that needed to be suppressed and kept in their place lest they lure pure-hearted young men astray. This was the mentality that informed many a witch burning.


I actually just saw something on this subject the other night and thought it was total madness the way they determined if one was a witch. I will not go into it, but I myself found it ridiculous.


Oh those wacky Middle Ages.Image A time of endless amusement especially if you're into black humor. Legal processes of that time were particularly hilarious. Image Consider a couple of examples:

In 1474 a rooster was brought to trial in Basel Switzerland. It was charged with laying an egg (without a yoke, no less). It was widely believed that such eggs could be hatched by witches in league with Satan, giving birth to deadly winged snakes. The accused was in a tight spot and even his defense attorney didn't argue that the charges were false. He did argue that his client had no pact with the devil and that laying an egg was an unpremeditated and involuntary act. The judges were not impressed, and after a lengthy trial it was decided that the rooster was possessed by Satan. The bird and egg were burned at the stake before a huge crowd. In the days before television, that was entertainment. Image

In 1451, in Lausanne, a number of leeches were brought into an ecclesiastical court. We can only imagine their distress as they listened to the reading of a document demanding that they leave town. When the tenacious leeches stuck to their guns, they were exorcised by the bishop-court.Image

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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby wren on February 24th, 2011, 10:29 pm

ElectricFedora wrote:Congratulations Wren! One thing I can say is I very much hope to one day find a frog Prince of my own, one who I can have a great relationship with like you have with your husband and like what my parents have. They've been married 21 years soon to be 22 years in December. Speaking of how old are Thing 1 and Thing 2? I've always pictured them as kids around 7-11 but from what I've seen on the site when you talk about their school it almost sounds like their closer to my own age of 15.


Thanks, ElectricFedora. Your frog prince will come along! Image

My sons are 17yo and 15yo, so they are close to your age. They have Autumn birthdays, so they are a Junior and a Freshman in our homeschool, which puts you right between them in school. We stay with the state age/grade guidelines for activities and sports, although they don't have to stay on the same level as local schools in every subject. Flexibility is one of the benefits of homeschooling, but I was a classroom elementary teacher before I had children, and there are advantages/disadvantages to all methods of education. You'll be able to see pictures of my sons in my facebook photos. When they were toddlers/preschoolers, their Dad called them Thing1 & Thing2 from the Dr. Seuss book, The Cat In The Hat! For Lynsay's forum, they use those nicknames. They make occasional appearances on the forum. They haven't read the books yet, though they do know the basic premise & characters from me & their aunt sin. ;) They are both avid readers, mostly of fantasy & sci/fi with some adventure and non-fiction. Paranormal, except for in the fantasy genre, doesn't appeal too much to either of them. :)
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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby Denise on February 25th, 2011, 2:23 am

I have just realized that I'm the slug in my 21-year marriage. :shock: I'm the one who hasn't a clue what the plans are even though they were told to me. I get distracted very easily and have a lousy memory.
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Re: Curious Thought about the Older Immortals

Postby grlnxtdr29 on February 25th, 2011, 9:36 am

Denise, You aren't a slug. Women are Never slugs. Occasionaly we may just be Catapillers who never got around to becoming Butterflies, but we are never Slugs...
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